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Pasquini Livia G4 Automatic w/PID

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1x Lavazza Crema e Aroma Espresso $20.75
1x Urnex Cafiza Espresso Machine Cleaner $14.99
1x Rattleware Large Round Handle Tamper $28.96
Value: $64.70

Overview

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After more than 15 years of excellent service, Pasquini has retired their celebrated Livia 90 espresso machine to make room for its successor, the Pasquini Livia G4. Encased in gorgeous stainless steel, this new machine boasts a plethora of new features both inside and out. Improvements of note include the Livia G4’s actively heated group head, which is regulated by a thermostatically controlled heating element. This helps to ensure temperature stability and reduce the time it takes before the machine is ready to brew. Also new to the Livia G4 are the lever operated steam and hot water arms. As opposed to a traditional valve operated steam arm, the steam lever on the G4 can be locked into place to dispense constant steam or operated manually for greater control over steaming and frothing.

With regards to brewing and steaming, the Livia G4 sports a 1.5 liter heat exchange boiler, allowing you to do both at the same time and an ample 92 oz water reservoir. Temperature stability is ensure not only by the aforementioned actively heated group head, but also by the commercial style chrome plated brass portafilter and the passively heated cup warmers, which have a combined 22% greater surface area than the Livia 90. As for steam and hot water, both the steam and hot water arms are mounted on ball joints for greater control over positioning. Additionally, the steam arm is insulated internally to keep the surface cooler for longer, helping prevent accidental burns.

From a technical standpoint, Pasquini has made several changes to help ensure the longevity of the Livia G4. The 1.5 liter heat exchange boiler is now made of stainless steel instead of copper for increased resistance against corrosion, and is now regulated by a safety cut-off breaker to prevent overheating. The electronic control boards, AKA the “brains,” have been moved to the bottom of the machine and away from heat sources.On a final note, the Livia G4 abstains from using an electrical water level probe in favor of a mechanical pressure plate in order to detect when the reservoir is empty.

This particular machine, the Livia G4 Automatic offers the specific benefits of volumetric programmable coffee dosing, allowing you to craft consistent custom drinks time and time again. A PID temperature controller for precision monitoring and control of brew temperature, and a front facing pump gauge to monitor brew and steam pressure. As dedicated masters of their craft, Pasquini have boldly inscribed their mantra on the side of the machine:

For Music Puccini

For Art Bernini

For Espresso Pasquini

Features

PID Temperature Controller

The PID or “Proportional-Integral-Derivative controller” allows you to adjust the temperature of the brew head and the steam boiler, this allows you to regulate both the brew temperature of the coffee produced and the steam pressure.

Redesigned Portafilter

The Livia G4 sports a redesigned commercial style portafilter with a 58mm filter basket and an ergonomic handle emblazoned with the Pasquini logo. The portafilter comes with a single and double shot filter basket, as well as a blind filter basket for back-flushing.

Housing and Cup Warmer

The Livia G4 is housed in a stylish and durable stainless steel body and sports a 22% greater cup warming surface than the Livia 90.

Improved Steam Wand

The steam wand on the Livia G4 features internal insulation to keep the surface from heating up too quickly, reducing the risk of accidental burns. The wand comes with a two-hole steam tip and is compatible with other 10mm female threaded steam tips.

Plated Heat-Exchange Boiler

The Livia G4 features an auto-filling heat-exchange boiler, allowing it to brew and steam at the same time. The boiler is plated to reduce the risk of scale build-up and furthering its durability. In order to prevent overheating, the boiler has been fitted with a safety cut-off breaker.

Water Reservoir

The G4’s ample 92oz reservoir abstains from using an electrical water level probe in favor of a mechanical pressure plate in order to detect when the tank is nearing empty.

Compatible with Pasquini Accessories

Complete your at-home coffee bar by combining the G4 with Pasquini’s 2 Drawer Base and Moka Grinder.

Included with this Machine

The Pasquini Livia G4 comes packaged with the following accessories:

  • 1 Plastic Tamper
  • 1 Coffee Scoop
  • 1 Group Brush
  • 1 Package of Descaling Solution
  • 2 Pasquini Logo Decals

Specifications

Misc Data
Manufacturer: Pasquini
Model: Livia G4
Specifications
Dimension - Width (Inches): 9.8
Dimension - Height (Inches): 14.7
Dimension - Depth (Inches): 17.7
Weight (lbs): 48.5
Watts: 1400
Volts: 110
Housing
Housing Materials: Stainless Steel
Drip Tray Material: Stainless Steel
Drip Tray Cover Material: Stainless Steel
Drip Tray Capacity (Oz): 26
Drain Line Adaptable: Yes
Easy To Rotate: No
Tall Legs: Yes
Frothing Wand
Material: Stainless Steel
Steam Wand Style: Commercial Style
Wand Movement: Articulating
Number Of Holes: 2
No Burn Wand: Yes
Water Source
Reservoir Or Plumbed: Reservoir
Reservoir Capacity (Oz): 100
Reservoir Material: Plastic
Reservoir Access: Top
Reservoir Removable: Yes
Controls
Type Of Controls: Push Button
Display Type: LED
Programmability type: Volume Controlled
Programmable Brewing: Yes
Low Water Warning: Yes
Pressure Gauges: Brew Only
Brew Temperature Display: Yes
Cup Warmer
Material: Stainless Steel
Size (Inches): 9.5 x 6.5 (Top Level) 8.5 x 4.25 (Lower Level)
Passive / Active: Passive
Portafilter Data
Material: Chrome Plated Brass
Type: Commercial Style
Weight (lbs): 1.25
Diameter (Millimeter): 58
Commercial Filter Baskets Included: Single & Double
Tamper Size (Millimeter): 58
Brew Group
Material: Chrome Plated Brass
Preheat: Yes
Three-Way Valve: Yes
Back Flush Capable: Yes
Boiler Data
Number Of Boilers: 1
Brew And Steam Simultaneously: Yes
Rapid Steam: Yes
Brew Boiler Data
Brew Boiler Type: Heat Exchanger
Brew Boiler Watts: 1400
Brew boiler Volume (Oz): 1.5 Liter
Brew Boiler Material: Copper with Brass End Plates
Brew Boiler Orientation: Vertical
Brew Boiler Heater Location: Internal
Brew Boiler Auto Fill: Yes
Pump Data
Pump Type: Vibration
Maximum Pressure (Bar): 18
Brew Pressure Adjustability: Yes
Air Remover: Yes
Self Priming Pump: Yes
Performance
Recommended Heat Up Time (Seconds): 900
Hot Water Recovery Time (Seconds): 0
Maintenance
Back Flush Cleaner Used: Cafiza
Details
Warranty (Years): 1
Country Of Manufacture: Italy
Recommended Applications: Home
Service provided
Repairs By: Whole Latte Love
Contact Number: 1-888-411-5282

Questions

I've read all sorts of complicated instructions for descaling the Pasquini Livia G4.  What process does WLL recommend?  Might you do a YouTube presentation?

Answer by Brian Ampolsk:

 

 

OK, that's a big help. I see what you mean about descaling.

So, now I have it.  Perhaps it was a mistake, and I should have bought a double boiler machine.  But, that is neither here nor there now.  Are you aware of companies that offer periodic descaling for a price?  Especially in the philadelphia area?  I don't want to be sending it in the mail for descaling.  With the expobar water softener cartridge in an area of moderate hardness, how often would i need to descale?  Usage is moderate...  M-F (work days), a latte in the morning, and that's all.  When I'm home, two or three shots, including one or two lattes.

Thanks,

brian

Answer by Brian Ampolsk:

Well, that's not a practical solution, is it?  I mean, it is necessary to descale this machine periodically.  So, I need to know how to do it.  It's a significant investment, and I need to protect it.  Is this why you don't feature it anymore on your website?  Have I bought an elephant?  Anyway it may require care, bute I have it now... so, I need to know how to properly descale it.

Another question:  in order to reduce the frequency of descaling, is there a filter that can fit inside the water tank (as for the Silvia)?

Answer by Sanfam:

As a final addition, your Livia G4 pulls water by way of lines draped into the tank.  As such, the water softener available for purchase for the Expobar line of machines can be attached to the inlet hose and used to soften water feeding into the pump.  

This part can be found here: http://www.wholelattelove.com/products/expobar-water-softener-cartridge

 

Answer by Sanfam:

To say it's difficult is in no way equating the task with "impossible."  The largest complication pertains to fully flushing the heat exchanger of water and using a solution that is aggressive enough to dissolve scale on this scope, but not so aggressive as to damage the boiler.  Currently, this would leave Urnex Dezcal as the recommended solution due to its potency.  Below, I've included a set of instructions that apply somewhat universally to descaling a heat exchanger boiler. Please note the usual terms (that damaged caused by descaling or improperly attepting to do so could void your warranty)

Descaling a Heat Exchanger

** Read and understand these instructions entirely before attempting to drain your boiler**

Caution! The machine must be heated to steam temperature to properly drain the boiler. The machine and water are at scalding temperatures.

Remove the steam tip, shower screen, and hot water wand tip. 
Plug the machine in and allow it to come to normal brewing temperature/pressure.
If you are uncertain how to complete this step, refer to the manufacturer's instruction manual.
This step may slightly differ for each machine.

Find two LARGE, tall-sided containers, place one under the brew group and one under the hot water dispenser.  Make sure the containers are made of a material that will not melt as they will be filled with very hot water.
Make sure that both containers are solidly in place and will not spill or fall when water begins to drain into them.  Remember, these two containers combined need to be equal to, or greater than, the volume of your boiler.

Remove the top of your water reservoir.
Remove the water intake line from the water reservoir. This is usually the line with a water softener filter attached to the end.
Activate the pump by turning on the brew button. 
Beware of splashing hot water!! It will burn!!

Run the pump until water stops flowing from the brew head.
Turn off the brew button.
Turn off the main power switch.
Open the hot water dispensing valve by turning the hot water knob counter clockwise.  Make sure you open the knob completely.
 Leave the hot water knob open until water stops flowing from the hot water dispensing valve.
 Close the hot water dispensing valve.
 The boiler is now drained of water. You should now mix up your descaling solution.  Make sure to carefully follow the manufacturer’s dilution instructions. 
Fill your water tank with the descaling solution. 
You will now refill the machine with the descaling solution.
Replace the inlet tube into the water tank.  Remove the water softener filter if it is still attached. 
Turn the machine on.  It will begin to auto-fill.  Press the coffee brewing button and allow descaling fluid to begin flowing from the group head.
When about 1 cup of descaling fluid has exited the group head, turn the coffee brewing button off.  The machine will continue to autofill for about 1 minute.  The pump will then stop itself.
Leave the descaler in the machine for as long as the manufacturer’s instructions recommend.  If there is no recommendation, about 10-15 minutes is enough. 
**Note: Any longer than is recommended and the descaling fluid can damage the machine.

Now repeat steps 2-13 to remove all of the descaling fluid from the machine. 
When the machine is drained of the descaling fluid, you must refill it with clean water in order to rinse out any remaining descaler.  Repeat the filling process (beginning at step 16).
You must now drain the machine one last time and refill it with clean water to remove all traces of the descaler.  Repeat steps 2-13 one final time.
Now the machine is drained of all traces of descaling fluid.  Repeat the filling process one final time.
Replace the steam tip, shower screen, and hot water wand tip. 
Your machine is now descaled and ready to brew coffee again.  

Answer by Sanfam:

While descaling these machines is possible, it's not recommended for Average Joe Home User the reasons you describe.  The heat exchanger boiler used by this machine requires a degree of care to properly.  

Hello,

 

I recently bought a Pasquini Livia G4 with PID and volumetric programming from you.  I'm interested in two possible accessories:

1.  Is there a single spout Portafilter for the G4?

2.  Is there some kind of water treatment filter (as, for example, for the Rancilio Silvia) to soften the water?  I live in a moderately hard water area (about 5), and want to do everything I can to reduce the water hardness.

Finally, is there a YouTube video that demonstrates how to decalcify a Livia?

Thanks,

Brian

 

Answer by Sanfam:

While we don't stock a single-spout portafilter for the G4, these filters use fairly universal threading that allows you to pursue one of two options.  Either unscrew/remove remove the spout and either brew as-is direct into the cup, or remove the spout and replace it with a single-spout from Rancilio, Expobar, or Gaggia.  

Regarding descaling a Livia G4, please review the answer found under the other question for this model here: http://community.wholelattelove.com/questions/4933/descaling-pasquini-livia-g4

mh12345 asked:

I'm liking the relatively small footprint of this machine and am thinking about making the purchase.  This may seem like a silly question, but I'm curious.  Is the positioning of the brew head and the hot water spout such that you can brew a shot into a coffee mug and add hot water without repositioning the mug?  Thanks.

Answer by Sanfam:

While this might be possible given a wide enough mug, your biggestissue would be height.  The spout-to-cup height is shorter than most standard coffee mugs, which would make manuvering the cup in/out a little awkward.  The hot water tamp is a bit stubby compared to some other models, making it difficult to easily move the hot water into the cup.  That said, it wouldn't likely be too difficult to adapt another manufacturer's short s-shaped hot water arm to fit the role and make for a one-step Americano.

Chris Deer asked:

Hello: I have a livia 90 that I bought from you about 10 years ago. It was a refurbished machine and I have repaired several times. It has been an awesome machine but I am ready to upgrade. The main problem that I have noticed is that the entire setup: Meaning, the Moka grinder and the two drawer base is not being marketed for the livia G4. So: Does the Livia G4 fit on top of the Livia 90 two drawer base? Is there a new base I could get with the new Livia G4 to take advantage of it's narrower design (While keeping my Moka Grinder)?

 

Answer by Sanfam:

The Livia G4 is actually a much smaller machine than the Livia 90, so it easily fits onto the older base. It does, however, look a little bit strange while doing so.  In its place, we've found the Rancilio-branded two-drawer base to be an adequate replacement as the Rancilio Silvia it is intended to be used with and the Livia G4 share a similar width, but the Moka (depending on where the cord exits from) may not fit comfortably along side of it due to being *slightly* wider than the Rancilio Rocky.

What exactly does the PID do?  I know it allows for temperature regulation, however I am unclear on how exatly it operates.  Is it programmable or is it involved in pre-brew settings?

Do you have any comments on how this machine compares to a Nuova Simonelli Musica?

Thank you in advance for your comments.

Answer by Erik:

The PID operates by turning the boiler on and off in rapid succession results in very accurate and very stable temperatures.  It also allows the user the ability to set the boiler temperature for different flavor profiles when brewing.  This machine, like the Nuova Simonelli Musica, is a heat exchange boiler and the two machines are very well made and very comparable.  If you would like to speak more in depth about these machines I can be reached at 1-888-411-5282 ext 5193

Answer by Granite Bay Don:

Erik -

Thank you for your rapid response to my questions.

Is the warm up time of 900 seconds or 15 minutes pretty accurate? 

Does the machine have a seperate brew group warmer or is the brew group warmed by the boiler heat?  I'm assuming  that the 15 minustes as quoted is a fair estimate for water and brew group warm up, correct?

I make my coffee early in the morning and long warm up times, longer than 15 minutes tend to cramp my morning routine.  I have noticed that most of the good quality italian machines are meant for a more leisurly start up but i'm sure this partly due to the large boiler designs for rapid sucession of cycles.

How long is the factory warranty on this machine and where does it have to be sent for repairs?  Are repair parts hard to get for these machines?

Thanks again for your help.

Hi,

 

 

This is the third time I have posted this question, and frankly, I've spent a good deal of money with you the last year.  I expect better service. Follows what I have written and which does not appear anywhere in your question list.  Please have someone write me as I'm unable to call you during your abbreviated help line hours (they conflict with my work schedule).

 

I just purchased from you a Pasquini Livia G4 Automatic w/PID.  It is a gorgeous machine and quite an upgrade from my Rancilio Silvia V3.  However, I do have some questions.

1.  This is probably a question about the relationship betweeen grinder and Livia.  I have a baratza Vario.  Now, if i grind the same as I did for the Silvia, i get a lot more coffee extracted in the 25 seconds of the pull...  too much, in fact.  I will say that it's much more consistent than pulling a shot from the Silvia ever was.  However, I think I must be doing something wrong.  Is it possible that to get a proper shot with this machine requires a finer grind and/or more coffee than the silvia?  BTW, I'm using mostly CounterCulture Coffee's Apollo and Toscano coffees.

 

2.  I actually got better froth with the Silvia than the Livia.  I suspect it's because the Livia heats so rapidly, much more rapidly than the Silvia.  Perhaps I just need to adjust how I"m frothing.  Nevertheless, I find I have much less control over the frothing process than with the Silvia.  supplemental question:  do you recommend whole milk or 1% with this machine?  I've been using whole, but decided to try 1%.  I haven't used it yet.  But interested in your recommendation.  BTW, with the rapid heat, I'm not sure how I would differentiate between doing a latte and a cappuccino.

 

3.  I live in an area of moderately hard water.  Not extremely hard.  It was recommended that I buy a double boiler machine rather than a heat exchanger... but a.) that was after I had already purchased the Livia and b.) I really like the Livia... in terms of feature set, as well as overall quality and aesthetics.  So, the quesiton is in this area, how often would you recommend descaling.  Are there water softeners available for in tank placement in the Livia (as there is for the Silvia)?  I have seen bestmax water softeners.  is this something that needs to be plumbed?  Do you recommend it?  In short, what can i do to maximize the life and quality of this machine?

 

4.  The Silvia had to be turned off when not in use.  Is that also true of the Livia?  I used to have a Breville 800 ESXL which I left on all the time.  I have read somewhere that the Livia is made to be left on all day.  Does that mean that it never needs to be turned off or that it needs to be turned off before bed?  It's not a crucial issue as I have it connected to a timer so that it turns on at 5 every morning.  I would just like to know the parameters.

 

Finally, I have asked quite a lot of questions here, for which I apologize.  However, the number of questions actually points to a problem with the Pasquini line... Unlike the Rancilio Silvia, there is very little information online, much less on YouTube on how to optimize the use of this machine.  Are you aware of any such documentation?  The documentation that comes with the Livia is woefully inadequate... as is the Silvia documentation.  At least the Silvia has the benefit of extensive online suggestions, documentation, YouTube stuff, etc.  If this is not available, would you consider making some YouTube videos discussing some of the questions I have raised.  I don't know how many of these machines you sell, but it is a significant investment.  Additional docs and some YouTube videos would be greatly appreciated.

 

thanks,

Brian

Answer by Sanfam:

Brian,

1. In general, you'll want to tune your grind for your machine; Each machine may have slight differences in brew pressure and dispensation patterns that would need you to either adjust the machine or adjust the grinder to compensate for.  Given that the Pasquini Livia G4 is generally well-tuned from the factory, I would suggest manipulating the grind to get the desired result.  You can always check your brew pressure when backflushing; Simply note the reading on the Brew Pressure gauge when backflushing; Across each attempt, it should hit the same "peak;" this is your machine's calibrated brew pressure.  If you find it is too high, you may want to dial it down just a bit.  I would anticipate a reading between 9.5 and 10.5 bar at peak.  

2. Milk type has proven itself to be not terribly important when attempting to froth; Technique is the real winner here.  While the Silvia is certainly a competent steamer, your habits may not have fully adjusted to the significantly more consistent higher level of steam pressure that you would experience with an HX machine like the Livia G4; In addition to starting lower, steam pressure would normally drop signicantly while frothing with a Silvia.  This ramp-down would nearly indescernable on the Livia.  While it's less specific, I suggest reviewing online tutorials and training videos of people attempting to froth with prosumers and commercial machines, watching for differences in technique.  The higher overall pressure and consistency will mean that more air will be mixed in over less time, mandating a bit of a change to your long-practiced routine.  Just as with picking up the Silvia's nuances, this is somethign that comes with practice.

3. In any case, feeding the machine properly softened water is something that's always recommended; Some manufacturers even require it in order to honor their warranties.  In the case softening your water on the household level, I'd defer to a plumber.  Contact your local water authority or a trusted plumber and ask them for advice on this matter; They're typically best able to understand and assess your home's needs and point you in the direction of a specific solution.

4. Being a Heat Exchanger-style Prosumer with a large boiler (and a secondary brew boiler!), the Livia G4 benefits from being left on to idle between periods of use.  This allows all of the hefty metal components to fully heat to their ideal temperatures, lessening losses while brewing.

On the closing note, there are no rpoblems we're aware of.  However, the Livia G4 is a relatively new model; It succeeded the nearly 20-year old Livia 90 and has only just now made it through its first year on the market.  While there are not many guides specifically for this machine, I anticipate that some will crop up with time.  Alternatively, feel free document your experiences and start one of your own--Some of the best online reference guides have been written this way, and are now essential parts of the User Experience.  That said, we'll certainly check into doing what we can to create some better information on our side.  

Hi,  I noticed that both at WLL at Seattle Coffee Gear, the Pasquini Livia is no longer appearing in your list of espresso machines.  Is there a problem with it or with its availability?   I bought a Rancilio Silvia v3 from you last year, but am thinking about upgrading to a heat exchanger machine with programmable brewing  early next year.  This is one of the primary devices I'm interested in.  Before I decide on a purchase I plan to discuss options with you.  I want my next espresso maker to be my last.  I like the Rancilio, but would like to get away from temperature surfing and inconsistent pulls.

Answer by Sanfam:

While the Livia 90 has been succeeded by the Livia G4, there's no shortage of stock in our warehouse that I'm aware of.  You can view the entire Pasquini product range on the following page: https://www.wholelattelove.com/Pasquini.cfm, and can find all variants of the G4 there.  In general, the Livia G4 models have been living up to the Livia's legacy of offering reliable, electronically controlled espresso machines to home users. 

dextrom asked:

How many years you can expect to get out of the machine before you need to get a new one?. I have Pasquini Livia 90 that served me very well for 10 years, now I need a new heating element, gaskets and other small parts with repain at $550. Should I stick with it or get a new one. Thanks.   

Answer by Louis-Jordan:

Thank you for your question. Prosumer units last about 7-8 years on average with good care and proper maintenance. In the case of your machine, I would say it's probably more economical to put money into a new unit instead of putting money into repairing your current unit. Even if you get your machine repaired, it is starting to get old, and other parts will eventually start to fail.

David asked:

When do you expect to have this machine in stock?

Answer by mjackson:

It is now available. Sorry we did not have a more definite answer earlier.

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